How to become more comfortable with change
In E1 of our podcast, Fearless Thinkers, learn to counter three change-averse mindsets in this conversation with Kathryn Clubb and Jeni Fan.
March 25, 2025
Learn how to counter the three most common change-averse mindsets in conversation with Kathryn Clubb, Head of Change and Transformation, and Jeni Fan, Senior Director.
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Peter Mulford
EVP, Head of Innovation Practice, BTS
The Undiscovered Country podcast, hosted by Peter Mulford, a podcast about the future, and future back thinking at work.Undiscovered Country is produced by Peter Mulford, Diana Mendez, Taylor Hale, and Aron Towner.
About the show
Rick Cheatham
Portfolio Executive, BTS
The Fearless Thinkers podcast, hosted by Rick Cheatham, personalizes BTS’s perspective on the people side of strategy.Fearless Thinkers is produced by Nicole Hernandez, Taylor Hale and Aron Towner. Special thanks to Joe Holeman, Chris Goodnow, Meghan McGrath, and Roanne Neuwirth for their invaluable help.
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